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Terminology Oldsters vs Youngsters

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I was struck with certain terminology differences between my generation and the newer ones, here are a few:

Programming vs Coding
Program vs Application aka "App"
Boot up vs Start up

What are some of the other differences you all have found?
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I don;'t think programming vs coding is so new. Coders were always sorta wannabe programmers.
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Hard boot and soft boot comes to mind.

Initialize a drive?

I feel old. :)
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Some of it makes sense but some does not. Programming is much more descriptive than coding. Code means a system of symbols and arbitrary words used to represent a message for transmission. Coding is converting a message into code. Application is a word that was giving a new meaning thanks to mobile devices. It started there and then all of a sudden there were no more programs or software. Everything become an app.

While we are at it, programmer vs developer. I cringe at developer because I think of real estate developers. They buy land, develop it and then sell it. Programmer is a more appropriate name IMO.

I get Start Up vs Boot Up. Not many people know what a bootstrap is nor do they have any idea what it means.
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coffee412 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:16 pm Hard boot and soft boot comes to mind.

Initialize a drive?

I feel old. :)
LOL, I remember those!
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If you want to confuse youngsters, ask them if they know why you "dial" a phone number. Then ask if they know where the dial is. I wager the expression on their innocent faces will be similar to the one a toddler has the first time someone plays 'I got your nose'.

A neighbor's kid lives to annoy and belittle "Boomers." A few weeks ago he inserted himself into a conversation between us Oldsters - we were explaining to one of the guys this thing called Reddit. Gen-XYZ quipped, "You would not understand, Boomer. It is social media." I responded with, "Usenet, only slightly better organized and somewhat more polite."
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MurphCID wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:20 am
coffee412 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:16 pm Hard boot and soft boot comes to mind.

Initialize a drive?

I feel old. :)
LOL, I remember those!
Me too.
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Come on, you all. I already feel old enough without your help. :wink:
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diyliberty wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:07 am Application is a word that was giving a new meaning thanks to mobile devices. It started there and then all of a sudden there were no more programs or software. Everything become an app.
Not in my world. it's either a program or software. I live to confuse youngsters :lol: in a few more years I'll be in a rocking chair hollering.... get off my lawn
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Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:37 pm Come on, you all. I already feel old enough without your help. :wink:
You're only old if you can remember closing the latch behind a 5.25 floppy. If you don't remember it.... then your as young as a new snow :wink:
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I remember 8 inch floppies.
At work we had to convert our 5.25 inch floppies to 3.5 inch floppies. Now no one uses floppy disks any more.
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TaterChip wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:50 pm
Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:37 pm Come on, you all. I already feel old enough without your help. :wink:
You're only old if you can remember closing the latch behind a 5.25 floppy. If you don't remember it.... then your as young as a new snow :wink:
Thanks for rubbing it in. :roll:

I actually still have some knocking about. :wink:
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diyliberty wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:07 am all of a sudden there were no more programs or software. Everything become an app.
It gets worse when people start calling websites apps!
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Moem wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:23 pm
diyliberty wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:07 am all of a sudden there were no more programs or software. Everything become an app.
It gets worse when people start calling websites apps!
Oh good grief! :shock: Seriously? Where have I been? :?
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Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:22 pm Thanks for rubbing it in. :roll:

I actually still have some knocking about. :wink:
I have some 3.5 knocking around but I ditched the 5.25 a while back. My first digital camera used the 3.5 disks
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TaterChip wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:45 pm
Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:22 pm Thanks for rubbing it in. :roll:

I actually still have some knocking about. :wink:
I have some 3.5 knocking around but I ditched the 5.25 a while back. My first digital camera used the 3.5 disks
I still have a bunch of those. I need to let them all go, along with the other antique tech I have knocking about (except my old tools; tools are useful, no matter their age).
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Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:22 pm I actually still have some knocking about. :wink:
I can see several storage cases full of 5¼" disks (and some loose) from where I'm sitting (loft man-cave) .. most have been archived but I still need to do my C64 disks. There's even a still-sealed box of Maxell HD 5¼" disks on top of the shelf rack .. :mrgreen:

Better not to ask how many floppy disk drives I have up here! :shock:
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Who remembers bios beep codes?
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MurphCID wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:27 pm Who remembers bios beep codes?
Remember them? I've always used them on my desktops. My new desktop's MOBO doesn't have a display that will display numeric error codes (thanks a lot for cheaping out, Giga - byte my ample asset :roll: ). There are four little LEDs arranged in a tiny square that light up in sequence when everything is copacetic but it's a bit of a stretch for me to see them from where I sit. I put a little speaker in the new desktop and I get that reassuring single beep just before it posts (ironically, a single beep with no post would point to a memory refresh error). I had to go online to find a list of
the beep codes, though. Gigabyte, bless their hearts, didn't think it was necessary to include them in the MOBO's manual. :roll:
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TaterChip wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:50 pm You're only old if you can remember closing the latch behind a 5.25 floppy. If you don't remember it.... then your as young as a new snow :wink:
So what does it say when i completely forgot they had a latch until you reminded me;-) 360K! Enough for several spreadsheets and a few letters!
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