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- Unchart3dSandb0x
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Preferred Browser
With Firefox embracing AI - something I have no problem with - and Microsoft making its Edge browser available to the Linux folks. Which application is your preferred browser? Chromium, Vivaldi, Opera, Google's Chrome, Brave, Waterfox, command line?
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Re: Preferred Browser
Waterfox, no telemetry.
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Re: Preferred Browser
LibreWolf - a variant of Firefox, but stripped of telemetry and other vulnerabilities. You can read more here: viewtopic.php?t=412504
Don't trust Microsoft.
Don't trust Microsoft.
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Re: Preferred Browser
I like vivaldi. Because it just works the way I do, but also us midori Both are good Browsers.
more about midori here. https://astian.org/midori-browser/
more about midori here. https://astian.org/midori-browser/
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- Lady Fitzgerald
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Re: Preferred Browser
Brave browser. It's security conscious and has a very effective ad blocker. Just don't bother with its BAT (Basic Attention Token) program, a type of cryptocurrency that rewards users and websites for allowing certain ads through; it's buggier than a cheap flophouse bed.
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Re: Preferred Browser
Firefox for general use, because of its unsurpassed tweakability with
Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge for specific purposes; mainly for websites that don't work well in my tweaked Firefox.
about:config
. And, well, also because I'm simply used to it. Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge for specific purposes; mainly for websites that don't work well in my tweaked Firefox.
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Re: Preferred Browser
I never could get used to Firefox nor ever liked it. I have Librewolf for the occasional website that doesn't play well with Brave. If I encounter a website that won't play well with either, I just assume the website's developers were too incompetent to design a safe website and avoid the site altogether. Some businesses don't get my business just for that reason.
One of my pet peeves when I was still with Windows was websites that wouldn't work with IE (don't hate me; IE 10 and 11 were actually pretty good) and would recommend Firefox (which I don't like) and Google Chrome (which I trust as far as I can spit upwind in a hurricane).
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Re: Preferred Browser
I won't use any browser without the option to have a top menu bar. I use the menu bar all the time.
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Re: Preferred Browser
Same here.
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Re: Preferred Browser
Vivaldi for more than 4 years. Security very good, integrated ad and tracker blocker very good. Numerous features that I wouldn't want to do without.
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- MikeNovember
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Re: Preferred Browser
Hi,
"Preferred" is meaningless.
You can compare browsers on different criteria:
- Security (descending order):
* flatpak or snap browsers,
* firejail sandboxed browsers,
* Chromium family
* Firefox family
- Intrinsic Privacy (descending order):
* ungoogled-chromium,
* mullvad browser
* librewolf, waterfox,
* Firefox
* Chromium, Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge
Note that using settings and filters ("/etc/hosts", uBlock Origin...), you can get comparable privacy with any browser.
Enable https everywhere mode and set encrypted dns requests to public servers to reveal less to your ISP.
- Anonymity:
* Tor Browser, or Mullvad Browser on Tor Network, or Firefox with specific settings (Resist fingerprinting and First party isolation) on Tor Network,
* use of Proton VPN or Mullvad VPN,
* use of other VPN
Note that the use of a browser on Tor network coupled to the use of a VPN offers the maximum anonymity protection.
- GUI is just a question of taste.
Regards,
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PS:
- I use now firejailed Firefox with specific settings on Tor Network, Proton VPN, and firejailed Microsoft Edge with specific settings and specific filters against Google and Microsoft tracking. Moreover, I use "/etc/hosts" as an IP addresses filter.
- Some months ago, when my GPU was still compatible of flatpaks, I used flatpak Mullvad Browser on Tor Network, flatpak Proton VPN and flatpak Ungoogled-Chromium, and "/etc/hosts" as an IP addresses filter.
- For all my browsers, "https everywhere" mode is enabled.
- I use encrypted TLS V3 DNS requests to public DNS servers (Google, Cloudflare etc.).
Further read: viewtopic.php?t=397740
"Preferred" is meaningless.
You can compare browsers on different criteria:
- Security (descending order):
* flatpak or snap browsers,
* firejail sandboxed browsers,
* Chromium family
* Firefox family
- Intrinsic Privacy (descending order):
* ungoogled-chromium,
* mullvad browser
* librewolf, waterfox,
* Firefox
* Chromium, Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge
Note that using settings and filters ("/etc/hosts", uBlock Origin...), you can get comparable privacy with any browser.
Enable https everywhere mode and set encrypted dns requests to public servers to reveal less to your ISP.
- Anonymity:
* Tor Browser, or Mullvad Browser on Tor Network, or Firefox with specific settings (Resist fingerprinting and First party isolation) on Tor Network,
* use of Proton VPN or Mullvad VPN,
* use of other VPN
Note that the use of a browser on Tor network coupled to the use of a VPN offers the maximum anonymity protection.
- GUI is just a question of taste.
Regards,
MN
PS:
- I use now firejailed Firefox with specific settings on Tor Network, Proton VPN, and firejailed Microsoft Edge with specific settings and specific filters against Google and Microsoft tracking. Moreover, I use "/etc/hosts" as an IP addresses filter.
- Some months ago, when my GPU was still compatible of flatpaks, I used flatpak Mullvad Browser on Tor Network, flatpak Proton VPN and flatpak Ungoogled-Chromium, and "/etc/hosts" as an IP addresses filter.
- For all my browsers, "https everywhere" mode is enabled.
- I use encrypted TLS V3 DNS requests to public DNS servers (Google, Cloudflare etc.).
Further read: viewtopic.php?t=397740
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Re: Preferred Browser
BRAVE. You can create a basic Profile (this will be named "Profile 1" in the main brave browser interface). I turn off most things and clear everything by default on close.
Then you can create separate profiles and segregate to your hearts content. Give them a name, Bank 1, Bank 2..., Shop 1, Shop 2...., Email 1, Email 2...,....
Some profiles can store cookies, some clear, some save sign on info, some won't, you can have one for Skype and allow cam and mic permissions,... etc.....
After creating a named profile(s) go to:
Home/.config/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser
Open "Default" directory and select all (ctrl+a) and copy (ctrl+c). * This is the profile you created named "Profile 1" in the main brave browser interface.
Return to Home/.config/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser
The profiles are stored in directories named Profile #, starting with Profile 1 (this is not the same Profile 1 that appears in the main Brave browser interface, it is the first New profile you created. Subsequent profiles will be named Profile 2, Profile 3, Profile 4.... in the directory).
Open each "Profile #" and delete the contents (ctrl+a, Delete).
Now paste (ctrl+v) the contents copied from the "Default" directory.
The above steps will give you the same basic tweaks for every profile you create. You than only have to do minor changes for some profiles depending on your use case.
Then from the main Brave browser you can select the profile you want to set up.
EX: Bank1
Select Bank1
Enter the url address and sign on, browse the the page you want to land on each time when first logging on.
The following steps will allow you to create separate shortcuts/apps for each url(s) you create from the tweaked profiles, else you can launch directly from the main brave browser interface.
Click on the "hamburger" icon in the upper right of the page. ==> More tools ==> Create shortcut
Name the shortcut, you can check the "open as window" box if you want it to open a window that resembles an app.
A shortcut than will be put on the desktop.
The shortcuts can also be added to a launcher via command:
/usr/bin/brave-browser-stable %U --profile-directory="Profile 1"
For the "apps" check the command used on the desktop launcher or application menu.
Then you can create separate profiles and segregate to your hearts content. Give them a name, Bank 1, Bank 2..., Shop 1, Shop 2...., Email 1, Email 2...,....
Some profiles can store cookies, some clear, some save sign on info, some won't, you can have one for Skype and allow cam and mic permissions,... etc.....
After creating a named profile(s) go to:
Home/.config/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser
Open "Default" directory and select all (ctrl+a) and copy (ctrl+c). * This is the profile you created named "Profile 1" in the main brave browser interface.
Return to Home/.config/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser
The profiles are stored in directories named Profile #, starting with Profile 1 (this is not the same Profile 1 that appears in the main Brave browser interface, it is the first New profile you created. Subsequent profiles will be named Profile 2, Profile 3, Profile 4.... in the directory).
Open each "Profile #" and delete the contents (ctrl+a, Delete).
Now paste (ctrl+v) the contents copied from the "Default" directory.
The above steps will give you the same basic tweaks for every profile you create. You than only have to do minor changes for some profiles depending on your use case.
Then from the main Brave browser you can select the profile you want to set up.
EX: Bank1
Select Bank1
Enter the url address and sign on, browse the the page you want to land on each time when first logging on.
The following steps will allow you to create separate shortcuts/apps for each url(s) you create from the tweaked profiles, else you can launch directly from the main brave browser interface.
Click on the "hamburger" icon in the upper right of the page. ==> More tools ==> Create shortcut
Name the shortcut, you can check the "open as window" box if you want it to open a window that resembles an app.
A shortcut than will be put on the desktop.
The shortcuts can also be added to a launcher via command:
/usr/bin/brave-browser-stable %U --profile-directory="Profile 1"
For the "apps" check the command used on the desktop launcher or application menu.
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- Unchart3dSandb0x
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Re: Preferred Browser
Preferred, go to, it's semantics. Although, I agree on all those points.
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That's an issue that bothered me about Brave. I don't blame them for trying to make a buck, but the whole crypto thing was weird. Maybe it's just me.Lady Fitzgerald wrote: ⤴Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:11 am Brave browser. It's security conscious and has a very effective ad blocker. Just don't bother with its BAT (Basic Attention Token) program, a type of cryptocurrency that rewards users and websites for allowing certain ads through; it's buggier than a cheap flophouse bed.
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Waterfox looks real interesting. I've never used it, but read about it. If I recall, they were going to offer an Android version and it didn't happen. I could be wrong. My memory is... wait. What were we talking about?
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Re: Preferred Browser
i have 3 browsers that i currently use, firefox, edge and ulaa, https://ulaa.com/
all 3 work just great for me and haven't ever had an issue where a website wouldn't work with any of them.
all 3 work just great for me and haven't ever had an issue where a website wouldn't work with any of them.
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Re: Preferred Browser
Out of curiosity I decided to install it. I used the .deb file for Debian. It installed without a problem. Actually Midori is also a modification of Firefox, like LibreWolf, but it has some additional extras like changing the user agent and others that I liked.kc1di wrote: ⤴Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:31 am I like vivaldi. Because it just works the way I do, but also us midori Both are good Browsers.
more about midori here. https://astian.org/midori-browser/
Additionally, it worked immediately with KeepassXC without the unnecessary complication of making new folders and files that was required with Wolf.
I guess it will become my favorite browser.diabolicbg wrote: ⤴Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:44 am SOLUTION: Create a /native-messaging-hosts/ folder yourself inside the .librewolf folder, copy the org.keepassxc.keepassxc_browser.json file from the Mozilla /native-messaging-hosts folder and paste it inside. Then restart LibreWolf and everything will work.
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I agree it seems to be weird. However, you don't have to opt-in to BAT; Brave works just fine, if not better, without it.Unchart3dSandb0x wrote: ⤴Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:30 pmThat's an issue that bothered me about Brave. I don't blame them for trying to make a buck, but the whole crypto thing was weird. Maybe it's just me.Lady Fitzgerald wrote: ⤴Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:11 am Brave browser. It's security conscious and has a very effective ad blocker. Just don't bother with its BAT (Basic Attention Token) program, a type of cryptocurrency that rewards users and websites for allowing certain ads through; it's buggier than a cheap flophouse bed.
Jeannie
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Re: Preferred Browser
Firefox ESR, I don't like the new 'features' of FF. I always install Chrome too because there are times when no other browser will work but I don't use it much any more.
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