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single "app" to rip/store/play music?

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Now that Chrome is a bit better, I'm going back to the music issue. In windows, you have media player. On my Mac, there's iTunes. Linux does not have a single product. Since you were very helpful with my browser, I thought you might have some words of wisdom for me with regards to a single "app" to rip/store/play music. I got VLC, but that might not be the app I need. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: single "app" to rip/store/play music?

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I'm not much help here. What music I have bought on CD instead of digital I've mostly ripped using command line :) Rhythmbox can apparently do what you want: http://askubuntu.com/questions/541977/a ... ddb-lookup
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I think all, if not most Linux audio players can rip and play music, and have a library.

http://www.slant.co/topics/2016/~what-a ... -for-linux
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Li ... o_software

I tried using Rhythmbox five years ago, and what put me of it was that there was no way to change the bit rate of the ripped music. It was always 128 kb/s.
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MarvKirsch wrote:On my Mac, there's iTunes. Linux does not have a single product.
Warning: biased opinion, disregard as needed.

I'm a former Mac user and while I liked itunes for playback, I found it terrible for ripping CDs and doing encoding work. For one thing, itunes' encoder is really lame compared to lame (no pun intended) or indeed to vorbis.

The good ol' Unix philosophy goes: "do one thing and do it well", but the Apple guys have really betrayed it for "ease of use". The results: no way to fine tune itunes (no pun intended... oh, forget it), to switch encoders, etc. The way I have always done all my ripping is through a little custom frontend to the toolchain, with bash as a glue language and a text file with the track names to read from. That way, I do the work once, I just keep the tiny database file, and I'm free to delete the songs to make room. When I want the songs again for my digital player, it's a matter of seconds to point the frontend to the right database (after I'm done with hunting for the CD around the home, that is).

But yes, to go my way you've got to love the command line and enjoy a bit of scripting.
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What is wrong qith banshee?

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read austin,texas reply in this post:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... c#p1007443
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ganamant:
Would you be willing to share your script?
I am about to start a major ripping / cataloging project of my LPs and CDs and it sounds like your approach would save a lot of time.
(I like the cmd line and the Unix Philosophy also. )

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pgmer6809 wrote:ganamant:
Would you be willing to share your script?
Yes, I'd be happy to share it, but I still have to finish porting it from Mac to Linux. Won't take too long. 8)
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MarvKirsch wrote:Now that Chrome is a bit better, I'm going back to the music issue. In windows, you have media player. On my Mac, there's iTunes. Linux does not have a single product. Since you were very helpful with my browser, I thought you might have some words of wisdom for me with regards to a single "app" to rip/store/play music. I got VLC, but that might not be the app I need. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Hi MarvKirsch, and others,

Amarok is a wonderful Linux music program that can also "rip" music from CD, store music, and play music to and from your system's music folder (collection), or connected devices, in multiple formats. I have included a quote from Amarok on "Ripping" music from a CD to your system, or devices, below. There are other good music programs for Linux as well, but I use Amarok.

Amarok might already be installed in your Linux Mint System, or it may be available in your system menu's Software Manager or Synaptic Packager Manager (spm), or you can install Amarok using the PPA method below from your console terminal prompt by typing in the commands one by one, or by using the "cut & paste" method for each line:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install amarok



To "rip" music from a cd, you basically, start Amarok, then tell Amarok where your music is stored: go into "settings", "configure Amarok", click "local collection", pick the folder, like "Music" (on Linux it is probably under your /home/user/Music" folder), and hit ok.

Then, put your CD in your CD drive, it will show up as "audio CD" on the upper left side, right click that, select "copy to collection", click where you want the music files to be created, like "local collection" or another connected device, then pick the music file format that you want to import the music as like ".mp3", ".Flac", ".Wav", ".ogg", and click "ok". Then, it starts "ripping" your music CD to your Music folder, or wherever you selected. Obviously, ".mp3" is the most compatible and common music file format.

Of course, you can "rip" music from your CD's using any of the CD/DVD "burning" programs that are included, or available, in Linux and Linux Mint, like the awesome "K3b" disk burning program.

Amarok - Information link
https://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/QuickSt ... collection
Amarok - Ripping a CD into the collection

If you don't have any music files on your computer, or want to add some music to them, it's easy to rip them (copy the tracks from your CDs to your collection). Just pop in a CD, and right-click on the banner of the CD device in the Content Browser (on the left side) to play, or copy to your collection, which will rip and tag your tracks (see image below). If you copy music from an audio CD to your Local Collection, the message bar at the bottom of the Amarok window will indicate that it is busy copying. The ripping may take several minutes. Once the rip is complete, the message in the message bar disappears and the music appears in the content browser of your Local Collection. If the ripped music does not appear in your Media Sources pane it's best to quit Amarok from the Amarok top-level menu, or Ctrl + Q, and then restart it. Now you should see it in your collection. The screenshot below shows how you move tracks from your audio CD, iPod or other device to your collection, using the context (right-click) menu.
250px-Amarokripcd.png
Amarok_RipCD_Types1.png

*** Note 04-20-2015: If for some reason Amarok music program is not working for you, or not working well on whatever version of Linux you are using, you can easily uninstall, remove it, from your system.

To remove Amarok

1. If you installed Amarok using your Linux Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (spm), then you can go back into either one and uninstall it (remove it) the same way that you installed it, only select to remove or uninstall.

2. If you used the PPA method to install it, you can go to your console terminal prompt and type in the commands below, or by using the "cut & paste" method for each line below:

sudo apt-get remove Amarok
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
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Re: single "app" to rip/store/play music?

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Amarok comes with a lot of KDE dependencies, though, and the OP didn't tell what DE he is running.
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MarvKirsch wrote: I'm going back to the music issue. In windows, you have media player. On my Mac, there's iTunes. Linux does not have a single product. I thought you might have some words of wisdom for me with regards to a single "app" to rip/store/play music. I got VLC, but that might not be the app I need. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi MarvKirsch, and others,

I use Linux Mint 17.1 KDE (32-bit) and I absolutely love it; which is in my signature line below my posts.

Although I doubt anyone would have a problem installing, or using Amarok music program on their system, I decided to update my previous post to include instructions on how to remove it (for newbies), if you needed to or wanted to. Amarok even has a version that works on MS Windows, as do some of the others. I was playing around with Amarok's CD Ripping functions last night and it worked easily and flawlessly, very cool.

But to be fair, I decided to do some more thorough research into the other good Linux music player - management programs that I could find, like Rythmbox, Clementine, Banshee, aTunes, etc... I will provide links to their websites and some reviews for any of you below. It would obviously be up to any of you to decide which music player - manager you like best. You can install and use any of the programs and then uninstall (remove) the ones you don't like or need.

Besides the Amarok music program, RythmBox was the only other music management program that I would recommend in total features and abilities (functions, like CD ripping), reliability, and positive user reviews and was designed to mimic "iTunes". So, for those of you interested in Rythmbox, I will provide instructions on how to install it next.

Rythmbox may already be installed on some of your Linux Systems, and if not it may be in your system menu Software Manager, or Synaptic Package Manager (spm), where you can easily install it, or remove it. If you want to install it via the PPA method, then from your console terminal type each command line below, or by using the "cut & paste" method for each line below:

Instructions for installing Rythmbox came from Webupd8.org link below (03-30-2015).
http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/install- ... linux.html

*** Not sure whether this is part of the new version or not, so: Rhythmbox CoverArt Browser Plugin link
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/rhythmbo ... lugin.html

To install Rythmbox using the PPA method, 03-30-2015:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:fossfreedom/rhythmbox
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install rhythmbox

To remove it:
sudo apt-get remove rythmbox
sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
sudo ppa-purge ppa:fossfreedom/rhythmbox


Links to reviews: These links have other links within their web pages as well...
User xenopeek's link from their post
http://askubuntu.com/questions/541977/a ... ddb-lookup

Rythmbox - main site?
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Rhythmbox

Clementine's main website
https://www.clementine-player.org/

"aTunes" - is a powerful, full-featured, cross-platform player and manager, with support for online radios, podcasts and CD ripping.
Is in the repositories: Software Manager and SPM.
http://www.atunes.org/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/atunes/ ... s%203.1.2/

Jajuk is a Java music organizer for all platforms. The main goal of this project is to provide a fully-featured application to advanced users with large or scattered music collections. To install, Check your Software Manager or SPM, or the links below...
http://www.jajuk.info/index.html

http://sourceforge.net/projects/jajuk/

Tom's Definitive Linux Software Roundup: Audio Apps -
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubu ... 856-3.html

LinuxLinks.com - 42 of the Best Free Linux Audio Software, "There is an extensive amount of free audio software available on the Linux platform which is both mature and sophisticated."
http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080 ... Audio.html

Banshee's website
http://banshee.fm/

Banshee - linux mint forums
http://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/banshee


For those of you really into music, and may already have a large library of music files, there is a program that is definitely worth mentioning called "MusicBrainz Picard". Picard is a cross-platform music tagger or re-tagger - for naming or renaming music files and identifying them in bulk, and more.

MusicBrainz Picard - main website
https://picard.musicbrainz.org/#

Musicbrainz installation in linux using the PPA method
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:musicbrainz-developers/stable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install musicbrainz
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Re: single "app" to rip/store/play music?

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I want to thank everyone for their replies. I think it might be a good idea to install all the suggested applications, and give each one a "test drive". Hopefully I will find one that works for me. Once again...Thanks :D

Marv
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question to phd21 do you know any program like ""MusicBrainz Picard""
for videos/movies?

I have an extencive collection of videos and movies that do need to be clean up and renamed properly.

also is there a multilanguage tagger for music and videos?
I have some files that are named in Russian, and Spanish and Italian
where spanish/italian are not much issues as the use same/simial charset
but russian names go crazy in XBMC and do not display
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vl1969 wrote:question to phd21 do you know any program like ""MusicBrainz Picard""
for videos/movies?

I have an extencive collection of videos and movies that do need to be clean up and renamed properly.

also is there a multilanguage tagger for music and videos?
I have some files that are named in Russian, and Spanish and Italian
where spanish/italian are not much issues as the use same/simial charset
but russian names go crazy in XBMC and do not display
Hi vl1969,

Interesting question, which until you brought this up I haven't given much thought to. I have just done some preliminary research on this because of your request. Perhaps this would be better in a different post thread because it is video related; but because some of the audio "taggers" can apparently also provide "metadata" for some video formats as well, this is as good a place as any to discuss that. All of you would have to verify whether the suggestions I'm about to bring up work for your video files by experimenting (using) the program or programs. You may even have to run more than one program to accomplish what you are asking for.

There are programs that do all of this in MS Windows and MAC (iFlix); and the MS Windows ones like the "MetaX" or "MovieManager Pro" or "Movie Central" might run under Linux "Wine" or "PlayOnLinux".

There are really good Linux programs for easily obtaining subtitles for video files in multiple languages, like the great "subdownloader", which is in the repositories, your Software Managers or SPM, Synaptic Package Managers.

AtomicParsley is a lightweight command line program for reading, parsing and setting metadata into MPEG-4 files supporting these styles of metadata:
iTunes-style metadata into .mp4, .m4a, .m4p, .m4v, .m4b files
3gp-style assets (3GPP TS 26.444 version 6.4.0 Release 6 specification conforming) in 3GPP, 3GPP2, MobileMP4 & derivatives
ISO copyright notices at movie & track level for MPEG-4 & derivative files
uuid private user extension text & file embedding for MPEG-4 & derivative files

AtomicParsley is in my SPM, Synaptic Package Manager; yours too probably. There are supposed to be Graphical (GUI) Front-ends for this program too.

Link to SourceForge and AtomicParsley
http://sourceforge.net/projects/atomicp ... %20v0.9.0/

"Wwidd" is a browser-based desktop video library and video tagger, for organizing, searching, and playing your collection.
Importing videos from disk: Auto-tagging & Thumbnail and metadata extraction.

https://github.com/wwidd/wwidd

MeD's Movie Manager - Java based - runs on Linux, MS Windows, MAC
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmm/

http://xmm.sourceforge.net/

GCstar is a free open source application for managing your collections. Detailed information on each item can be automatically retrieved from the internet. It is in my SPM, Synaptic Package Manager; yours too probably.
http://www.gcstar.org/index.en.php

GCstar Linux installation instructions
http://wiki.gcstar.org/en/install_linux

Tweaking 4 All - adding metadata (tags) to mp4 and m4v files
http://www.tweaking4all.com/home-theatr ... o-mp4-m4v/

Moviefly (alias lmc) is a port of the Ant Movie Catalog by Antoine Potten from Windows (http://www.antp.be/software/moviecatalog) to GNU/Linux. Older program.
https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/lmc/

Griffith is a media collection manager application - it is in my SPM, Synaptic Package Manager; yours too probably.
Griffith's main site - features page
http://griffith.cc/index.php?option=com ... &Itemid=38


jMovieManager - The software is supposed to be in German and English

jMovieManager's main website - apparently in German
http://jmoviemanager.de/

Download link
http://linux.software123.info/jmovieman ... fd9f7.html

Data Crow is a free, open source media cataloger and organiser, a multi-purpose tool that helps you to manage a huge amount of data in a single place.
http://www.datacrow.net/

"Musicbrainz Picard" has a "video tools" plug-in: Video tools- Improves the video support in Picard by adding support for Matroska, WebM, AVI, QuickTime and MPEG files (renaming and fingerprinting only, no tagging) and providing $is_audio() and $is_video() scripting functions.

"Kid3" is a very good audio tagger and might be able to help.

VLC a very good multimedia player, will allow you to manually edit metadata tags for audio or video and may have plug-ins to automate this. From what I can tell it is a one file at a time type program.

Tagspaces - you'll have to check out the link and see for yourself...
http://www.tagspaces.org/

Video – Adding movie information (Metadata) to your MP4 or M4V
http://www.tweaking4all.com/home-theatr ... o-mp4-m4v/

Link to check out ...
http://alternativeto.net/software/jmoviemanager/

http://alternativeto.net/software/moviemanager-pro/

http://alternativeto.net/software/metax/
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Thanks phd21, I heard about some of those apps and seen some reference on google about them as well. Haven't found one I like yet. But my setup is in progress so still have time.

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