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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:59 pm
by Gerd50
Hello LMDE friends,

i don't have time for OS stuff atm. All i need are two working systems if one should not be healthy. My testing
version is fine, but there are little issues with sid. Nautilus function 'open as administrator' opens Audacious,
in gnome alsamixer master volume is always at 0% and Tone disabled after a restart. What could it be? I prefer
my sid, can't say why and would like to fix it :)

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:36 am
by Brian49
Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.

I came across this issue before, when these upgrades were still in the Experimental repository. Evidently the maintainers have moved them to the Unstable repository without noticing the problem.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:55 am
by GregE
Brian49 wrote:Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.
Hi Brian, I did the upgrade and had no mouse or keyboard issues, so I wonder if it applies to some setups and not others. My keyboard and mouse are both USB connected running on an Intel based motherboard and running LMDE/Sid 64bit.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:19 am
by GeneC
I can verify Brians observations
Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled.
Full DU of my XFCE/SID partiton -- cursor is frozen at login window, keyboard does not work.
(This is a brand new install yesterday, with no special tweak, nothing from experimental).

With those packages ( initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils) held back on a separate partition (Shell/SID) and all other packages upgraded, mouse, and keyboard function normally.
Greg must be smiled upon today... :)

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:20 am
by dcihon
This did happen to me also.
On a AMD chipset if that has anything to do with it.
I am using a wired usb keyboard and wireless usb mouse. Both were dead.
Could this be kernel specific.
Could I try a different kernel?

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:54 am
by Regulus74
Brian49 wrote:Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.

I came across this issue before, when these upgrades were still in the Experimental repository. Evidently the maintainers have moved them to the Unstable repository without noticing the problem.
I don't have this problem on my notebook.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:08 pm
by craigevil
Brian49 wrote:
Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.

I came across this issue before, when these upgrades were still in the Experimental repository. Evidently the maintainers have moved them to the Unstable repository without noticing the problem.
Wondered why the siduction repos had their own versions of these packages a couple of weeks ago. Apparently they knew something.

If you happen to have been bitten by non-working mouse/kdb you can try adding:
# Siduction repo
deb http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free
# siduction fixes
deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main

sysvinit:
Installed: 2.88dsf-22.1
Candidate: 2.88dsf-26.1
Version table:
2.88dsf-26.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main i386 Packages
2.88dsf-26 0
500 http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages
2.88dsf-25 0
1 http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ experimental/main i386 Packages
2.88dsf-22.1.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable/main i386 Packages
*** 2.88dsf-22.1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Get:2 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main sysvinit i386 2.88dsf-26.1 [128 kB]
Get:3 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main sysvinit-utils i386 2.88dsf-26.1 [95.8 kB]
Get:4 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main sysv-rc all 2.88dsf-26.1 [74.4 kB]
Get:5 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main initscripts i386 2.88dsf-26.1 [86.7 kB]

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:32 pm
by xircon
No problems here, Dell Inspiron laptop.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:55 pm
by cooleric1234
Sorry for the stupid question but how do you recover if you can't use your keyboard or mouse? I know you can generally boot from a rescue cd and access the filesystem, but it seems you would need to revert to an old package via apt-get or dpkg and I don't know how you do that on just a mounted filesystem. I don't want to take up many resources here, a link or two for me to learn about would be great. Thanks.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:42 pm
by GeneC
For me, I have learned that running SID I have to make frequent backups with Clonezilla. Ten Minutes to clone a partition, and about the same to restore.
Sometimes you can fix a borked installation, sometimes, not so easy. Some times you don't want to mess around and get back on quickly. That's the time to restore partition with Clonezilla. That's what i did with my above problem.

That is not helping you though, sorry.
To fix it?
I really have no idea. Wish I did.
Perhaps someone has a fix for you.
Look at some of the other forum links on the first post.
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=70230

If I come across something. I will let you know with a post here.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:50 pm
by GregE
I am using a Liquorix kernel, perhaps that is why mine works. What kernel are you running Regulus/xircon?

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:54 pm
by cooleric1234
GeneC wrote:For me, I have learned that running SID I have to make frequent backups with Clonezilla. Ten Minutes to clone a partition, and about the same to restore.
Sometimes you can fix a borked installation, sometimes, not so easy. Some times you don't want to mess around and get back on quickly. That's the time to restore partition with Clonezilla. That's what i did with my above problem.

That is not helping you though, sorry.
To fix it?
I really have no idea. Wish I did.
Perhaps someone has a fix for you.
Look at some of the other forum links on the first post.
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=70230

If I come across something. I will let you know with a post here.
Thanks for the reply. I don't know that it's broken, I haven't bothered to reboot yet to find out :-) I was just curious. Perhaps I should follow the advice of the above post and add the sidux repositories so I can "downgrade."

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:05 pm
by GregE
Has anyone tried the obvious? That is unplugging the keyboard and plugging it back in. Or if your system has a legacy ps/2 port then try an old keyboard.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:09 pm
by craigevil
backup? hm naah then where would the fun of running Sid ? :twisted:

NO problems here btw. liquorix kernel and siduction repos.

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System:    Host: debian Kernel: 3.3.0-8.dmz.1-liquorix-686 i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: KDE 4.8.3 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           deb-src http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
           deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid main non-free
           deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           deb http://dl.google.com/linux/musicmanager/deb/ stable main
           deb http://download.jitsi.org/deb/ unstable/
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main
           deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:56 am
by craigevil
The actual bug:
#669949 - sysvinit: Break X11: no more mouse and keyboard - Debian Bug report logs - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669949

Either downgrade to testing version, or add the sidcution repo and install their fixed packages.

deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
should install the fixed packages as they are a higher version than the packages in the 'official' Debian sid repo.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:51 am
by xircon
Yes, running Liquorix and I have the siduction repos enabled, but my sysvinit is vesion 2.88dsf-26 from unstable/main

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:56 am
by Regulus74
GregE wrote:I am using a Liquorix kernel, perhaps that is why mine works. What kernel are you running Regulus/xircon?
I'm using the official kernel 3.2.19

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:41 am
by Brian49
I'm afraid the Siduction updates don't solve the problem here, when running the 3.4 trunk kernel from Experimental. The Unstable updates don't work with either the official 3.2 kernel or the Liquorix 3.4 kernel; I haven't tried the Siduction updates with those kernels.

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:45 am
by GeneC
GeneC wrote:I can verify Brians observations
Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled.
Full DU of my XFCE/SID partiton -- cursor is frozen at login window, keyboard does not work.
(This is a brand new install yesterday, with no special tweak, nothing from experimental).

With those packages ( initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils) held back on a separate partition (Shell/SID) and all other packages upgraded, mouse, and keyboard function normally.
Greg must be smiled upon today... :)
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I am running the latest Liquorix kernel.

Today
Added Siduction Repo

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gene@zordon:~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/linuxmint-packages/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
           deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free #"Debian Security"
           deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free #"SID"
           deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free #"SID Multimedia - NEW"
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free #"Siduction"
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main #"Siduction-RazorQT"
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
           deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main #"Chrome"
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
           deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main #"Liquorix"
Upgraded

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Commit Log for Fri Jun  8 06:21:21 2012

Upgraded the following packages:
initscripts (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26
sysv-rc (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26
sysvinit (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26
sysvinit-utils (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26
Re-boot
Mouse Cursor and keyboard frozen... :roll:


Tried Greg's suggestion. ....Unplugged/Replugged- Mouse/Keyboard (both USB2)...
That worked. First time for that.... :lol:

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:58 am
by dcihon
Did the same thing you did Gene.
Added the repo's
Didn't work
Unplug and replug works for me also.