LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) -{CLOSED}

Post your update and upgrade related errors here
Forum rules
Before you post please read this

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby Gerd50 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:59 pm

Hello LMDE friends,

i don't have time for OS stuff atm. All i need are two working systems if one should not be healthy. My testing
version is fine, but there are little issues with sid. Nautilus function 'open as administrator' opens Audacious,
in gnome alsamixer master volume is always at 0% and Tone disabled after a restart. What could it be? I prefer
my sid, can't say why and would like to fix it :)
I believe in everything, except humans.

LM9, Debian Testing Xfce, Debian Sid Xfce - CPU/Amd64 2,6Ghz, Graphics/Nvidia 9600 GT, Sound/SB Audigy4 emu10K1
User avatar
Gerd50
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 738
Joined: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:42 pm
Location: Fishtown, Germany

Linux Mint is funded by ads and donations.
 

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby Brian49 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:36 am

Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.

I came across this issue before, when these upgrades were still in the Experimental repository. Evidently the maintainers have moved them to the Unstable repository without noticing the problem.
Brian49
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 610
Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:27 pm

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby GregE on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:55 am

Brian49 wrote:Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.


Hi Brian, I did the upgrade and had no mouse or keyboard issues, so I wonder if it applies to some setups and not others. My keyboard and mouse are both USB connected running on an Intel based motherboard and running LMDE/Sid 64bit.
User avatar
GregE
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 453
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:24 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby GeneC on Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:19 am

I can verify Brians observations
Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled.


Full DU of my XFCE/SID partiton -- cursor is frozen at login window, keyboard does not work.
(This is a brand new install yesterday, with no special tweak, nothing from experimental).

With those packages ( initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils) held back on a separate partition (Shell/SID) and all other packages upgraded, mouse, and keyboard function normally.
Greg must be smiled upon today... :)
GeneC

AMD Phenom2x4 3.2 ghz, 12GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 460

Qiana (Cinnamon/XFCE)
Sparky XFCE (Debian Testing)
LMDE Cin 2.2 (SID)
User avatar
GeneC
Level 7
Level 7
 
Posts: 1537
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:59 pm
Location: Maine, USA

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby dcihon on Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:20 am

This did happen to me also.
On a AMD chipset if that has anything to do with it.
I am using a wired usb keyboard and wireless usb mouse. Both were dead.
Could this be kernel specific.
Could I try a different kernel?
Kernel 3.2.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint Xfce Edition
ATI - Tracking - Testing
User avatar
dcihon
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 276
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:15 pm
Location: Florissant, MO USA

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby Regulus74 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:54 am

Brian49 wrote:Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.

I came across this issue before, when these upgrades were still in the Experimental repository. Evidently the maintainers have moved them to the Unstable repository without noticing the problem.


I don't have this problem on my notebook.
Arch Linux user
User avatar
Regulus74
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 62
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:07 pm
Location: Mantova - Italy

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby craigevil on Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:08 pm

Brian49 wrote:
Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled. These packages are not held back when running apt-get upgrade.

I came across this issue before, when these upgrades were still in the Experimental repository. Evidently the maintainers have moved them to the Unstable repository without noticing the problem.


Wondered why the siduction repos had their own versions of these packages a couple of weeks ago. Apparently they knew something.

If you happen to have been bitten by non-working mouse/kdb you can try adding:
# Siduction repo
deb http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free
# siduction fixes
deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main

sysvinit:
Installed: 2.88dsf-22.1
Candidate: 2.88dsf-26.1
Version table:
2.88dsf-26.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main i386 Packages
2.88dsf-26 0
500 http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages
2.88dsf-25 0
1 http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ experimental/main i386 Packages
2.88dsf-22.1.1 0
500 http://packages.siduction.org/fixes/ unstable/main i386 Packages
*** 2.88dsf-22.1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Get:2 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main sysvinit i386 2.88dsf-26.1 [128 kB]
Get:3 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main sysvinit-utils i386 2.88dsf-26.1 [95.8 kB]
Get:4 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main sysv-rc all 2.88dsf-26.1 [74.4 kB]
Get:5 http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable/main initscripts i386 2.88dsf-26.1 [86.7 kB]
Debian Sid KDE4.8.4 Kernel 3.4 Thinkpad R40 CPU Pentium M 1.3MHz RAM 2GB ATI Mobility 7500
Debian - "If you can't apt-get something, it isn't useful or doesn't exist"
Giant Debian sources.list | Debian upgrade script smxi | sysinfo script inxi
craigevil
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 559
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:10 am
Location: down the rabbit hole

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby xircon on Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:32 pm

No problems here, Dell Inspiron laptop.
Dell Inspiron N5010 / Core I5 / ATI Mobility Radeon HD5400, LMDE Tracking Sid & Cinnamon Desktop
"Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'"
User avatar
xircon
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 775
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:59 am
Location: Sheffield, UK

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby cooleric1234 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:55 pm

Sorry for the stupid question but how do you recover if you can't use your keyboard or mouse? I know you can generally boot from a rescue cd and access the filesystem, but it seems you would need to revert to an old package via apt-get or dpkg and I don't know how you do that on just a mounted filesystem. I don't want to take up many resources here, a link or two for me to learn about would be great. Thanks.
cooleric1234
Level 1
Level 1
 
Posts: 36
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:48 pm

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby GeneC on Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:42 pm

For me, I have learned that running SID I have to make frequent backups with Clonezilla. Ten Minutes to clone a partition, and about the same to restore.
Sometimes you can fix a borked installation, sometimes, not so easy. Some times you don't want to mess around and get back on quickly. That's the time to restore partition with Clonezilla. That's what i did with my above problem.

That is not helping you though, sorry.
To fix it?
I really have no idea. Wish I did.
Perhaps someone has a fix for you.
Look at some of the other forum links on the first post.
viewtopic.php?f=198&t=70230

If I come across something. I will let you know with a post here.
GeneC

AMD Phenom2x4 3.2 ghz, 12GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 460

Qiana (Cinnamon/XFCE)
Sparky XFCE (Debian Testing)
LMDE Cin 2.2 (SID)
User avatar
GeneC
Level 7
Level 7
 
Posts: 1537
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:59 pm
Location: Maine, USA

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby GregE on Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:50 pm

I am using a Liquorix kernel, perhaps that is why mine works. What kernel are you running Regulus/xircon?
User avatar
GregE
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 453
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:24 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby cooleric1234 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:54 pm

GeneC wrote:For me, I have learned that running SID I have to make frequent backups with Clonezilla. Ten Minutes to clone a partition, and about the same to restore.
Sometimes you can fix a borked installation, sometimes, not so easy. Some times you don't want to mess around and get back on quickly. That's the time to restore partition with Clonezilla. That's what i did with my above problem.

That is not helping you though, sorry.
To fix it?
I really have no idea. Wish I did.
Perhaps someone has a fix for you.
Look at some of the other forum links on the first post.
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=70230

If I come across something. I will let you know with a post here.


Thanks for the reply. I don't know that it's broken, I haven't bothered to reboot yet to find out :-) I was just curious. Perhaps I should follow the advice of the above post and add the sidux repositories so I can "downgrade."
cooleric1234
Level 1
Level 1
 
Posts: 36
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:48 pm

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby GregE on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:05 pm

Has anyone tried the obvious? That is unplugging the keyboard and plugging it back in. Or if your system has a legacy ps/2 port then try an old keyboard.
User avatar
GregE
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 453
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:24 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby craigevil on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:09 pm

backup? hm naah then where would the fun of running Sid ? :twisted:

NO problems here btw. liquorix kernel and siduction repos.

Code: Select all
System:    Host: debian Kernel: 3.3.0-8.dmz.1-liquorix-686 i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: KDE 4.8.3 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           deb-src http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
           deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid main non-free
           deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           deb http://dl.google.com/linux/musicmanager/deb/ stable main
           deb http://download.jitsi.org/deb/ unstable/
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main
           deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main
Debian Sid KDE4.8.4 Kernel 3.4 Thinkpad R40 CPU Pentium M 1.3MHz RAM 2GB ATI Mobility 7500
Debian - "If you can't apt-get something, it isn't useful or doesn't exist"
Giant Debian sources.list | Debian upgrade script smxi | sysinfo script inxi
craigevil
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 559
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:10 am
Location: down the rabbit hole

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby craigevil on Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:56 am

The actual bug:
#669949 - sysvinit: Break X11: no more mouse and keyboard - Debian Bug report logs - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669949

Either downgrade to testing version, or add the sidcution repo and install their fixed packages.

deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
should install the fixed packages as they are a higher version than the packages in the 'official' Debian sid repo.
Debian Sid KDE4.8.4 Kernel 3.4 Thinkpad R40 CPU Pentium M 1.3MHz RAM 2GB ATI Mobility 7500
Debian - "If you can't apt-get something, it isn't useful or doesn't exist"
Giant Debian sources.list | Debian upgrade script smxi | sysinfo script inxi
craigevil
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 559
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:10 am
Location: down the rabbit hole

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby xircon on Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:51 am

Yes, running Liquorix and I have the siduction repos enabled, but my sysvinit is vesion 2.88dsf-26 from unstable/main
Dell Inspiron N5010 / Core I5 / ATI Mobility Radeon HD5400, LMDE Tracking Sid & Cinnamon Desktop
"Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'"
User avatar
xircon
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 775
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:59 am
Location: Sheffield, UK

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby Regulus74 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:56 am

GregE wrote:I am using a Liquorix kernel, perhaps that is why mine works. What kernel are you running Regulus/xircon?

I'm using the official kernel 3.2.19
Arch Linux user
User avatar
Regulus74
Level 2
Level 2
 
Posts: 62
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:07 pm
Location: Mantova - Italy

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby Brian49 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:41 am

I'm afraid the Siduction updates don't solve the problem here, when running the 3.4 trunk kernel from Experimental. The Unstable updates don't work with either the official 3.2 kernel or the Liquorix 3.4 kernel; I haven't tried the Siduction updates with those kernels.
Last edited by Brian49 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brian49
Level 5
Level 5
 
Posts: 610
Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:27 pm

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - May 20th

Postby GeneC on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:45 am

GeneC wrote:I can verify Brians observations
Beware of the upgrades to initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils which have just appeared in the Unstable repository. On restarting my computer, keyboard and mouse were disabled.


Full DU of my XFCE/SID partiton -- cursor is frozen at login window, keyboard does not work.
(This is a brand new install yesterday, with no special tweak, nothing from experimental).

With those packages ( initscripts, sysv-rc, sysvinit and sysvinit-utils) held back on a separate partition (Shell/SID) and all other packages upgraded, mouse, and keyboard function normally.
Greg must be smiled upon today... :)


============
I am running the latest Liquorix kernel.

Today
Added Siduction Repo
Code: Select all
gene@zordon:~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/linuxmint-packages/ debian main upstream import backport romeo
           deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free #"Debian Security"
           deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free #"SID"
           deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free #"SID Multimedia - NEW"
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/siduction/ unstable main contrib non-free #"Siduction"
           deb http://packages.siduction.org/razorqt/ unstable main #"Siduction-RazorQT"
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
           deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main #"Chrome"
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
           deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main #"Liquorix"


Upgraded
Code: Select all
Commit Log for Fri Jun  8 06:21:21 2012

Upgraded the following packages:
initscripts (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26
sysv-rc (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26
sysvinit (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26
sysvinit-utils (2.88dsf-22.1) to 2.88dsf-26


Re-boot
Mouse Cursor and keyboard frozen... :roll:


Tried Greg's suggestion. ....Unplugged/Replugged- Mouse/Keyboard (both USB2)...
That worked. First time for that.... :lol:
GeneC

AMD Phenom2x4 3.2 ghz, 12GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 460

Qiana (Cinnamon/XFCE)
Sparky XFCE (Debian Testing)
LMDE Cin 2.2 (SID)
User avatar
GeneC
Level 7
Level 7
 
Posts: 1537
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:59 pm
Location: Maine, USA

Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) - Jun 7th

Postby dcihon on Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:58 am

Did the same thing you did Gene.
Added the repo's
Didn't work
Unplug and replug works for me also.
Kernel 3.2.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint Xfce Edition
ATI - Tracking - Testing
User avatar
dcihon
Level 4
Level 4
 
Posts: 276
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:15 pm
Location: Florissant, MO USA

Linux Mint is funded by ads and donations.
 
PreviousNext

Return to Update/Upgrade Issues

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests